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    They don’t mention it causing turmoil at Xitter, presumably because they are already at maximum turmoil capacity

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      No. I interacted with him on two occasions during the PayPal days. They were pitching PayPal as a payment mechanism for a bunch of our verticals. Even back then he was weird, awkward, and cringe. I think there is video of him back then taking possession of a McLaren and you can see how cringe he was.

      EDIT: Found it.. On rewatch, it doesn’t really show how insufferable he was in person. It’s funny to see how x.com gets recycled though.

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          I don’t understand people buying such high-end toys and not bothering to pay for some training.

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            Seriously. Racing school was fun and only $1,500! Yeah that was serious money for me, but I thought it was a good investment/ birthday present. For him though… That’s like a quarter.

            Uninsured is also just strange. Even if I bought a junked supercar, rebuilt the thing myself, and didn’t care if I wrecked it, I’d still insure the thing.

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              I feel like Elon is the type of guy who views having insurance as weak. Like someone or something having an even minute amount of authority over him is unthinkable.

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              For him though… That’s like a quarter.

              Today, yes, but back then he was just another dot com millionaire. Remember, that footage was before PayPal, so he probably had about 300M, tops. A million was still only a fraction of his wealth, but it was still a noticeable fraction.

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                Even so, I seriously doubt the $1500 he could have spent to learn to drive the thing properly would have been a serious expense.

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          According to another comment Musk wrecked his McLaren but so did Atkinson (twice!).

          It’s like crazy high-performance sports cars are hard to drive.

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            I won a competition to drive a Ferrari F458 on a track. It was dope but it took me several tries to even pull away cleanly (this is after an hour long lesson about the track and 30min hands on with the car).

            One of the Ferrari guys took it and warmed it up for me after which it behaved much better but it’s a long story to say that I can see an inexperienced driver screwing up badly in a super car especially when cold.

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              And the McLaren F1 is an older more raw car than the F458.

              If I were into cars and had the money, I think it would be part of the joy of getting my new toy to pay up for a few days of track time with a good trainer.

              But I guess I’m not surprised Mr. “I know more about manufacturing than literally anybody else” would be pretentious enough to just wing it and fuck it up gloriously.

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                The schools are worth the cost. It cost me $1500 for a 3 day course way back in '98. Same racing school is now $2050. I can say I gained a lot more control of my car after that.

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                  That sounds reasonable and fun. Compared to the cost of a McLaren F1, it’s peanuts.

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      The number of lies that came out of that Muppets mouth during that cringy piece was remarkable. My fav had to be ‘just three years ago i was sleeping on the floor on the YMCA hostel’. what an absolute fucking donkey of a human.

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      I think I read somewhere he’s hopped up on ket every day (but someone correct me if wrong)

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        You don’t get hopped up on Ketamine, that’s for the comedown.

        You get stimmed up on amphetamines, and then take the edge off with downers.

        The way he’s slurring his words, I’d guess benzodiazapines (Xanax, Valium, etc.)

        But I’m sure he’s taking Ketamine as well, and probably mixing up quite a few daily cocktails with who knows what else.

        His dumbass is probably doing a bunch of RC’s to top it all off.

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          That sounds brain melting. Like I’m all for amphetamines, they don’t work recreationally on me, but I know a lot of people who realized they had adhd when partying and trying Adderall left them thinking clearly. But benzos, nah I’ll take panic over benzos, those fuckers scare the shit out of me. Benzos will ruin your life if you let them.

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    I’m usually ready to laugh at this asshole, but if he has a drug problem, then I pity him.

    Important note: pity and sympathy are similar, but not the same thing.

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        I used to work with this mean miserable guy and there were so many times a lot of us would try to cheer him up. Share food, invite to after work drinks, movies, concerts, just include him. He never took anyone up on it, ever. After a friend of mine left that job and confronted him about his shitty attitude and self alienation, he just said, “I don’t want your pity.”

        Ironically, after I heard that I stopped sympathizing and did just pity the guy.

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          Maybe he just didn’t want to hang out with you guys and had a perfectly fine life outside of work. Crazy, I know.

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            I sincerely hope he does, but I think it’s pretty sad that someone conflates kindnesses with pity.

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            I often don’t want to hang out with coworkers. I just politely decline if asked affirmatively. There’s no reason to decline and say, “I don’t want your pity” since I assume they’re just to be inclusive and friendly. I know a lot of people on here have a hard work/life separation, but you do have to exist with your coworkers for some portion of your life. Might as well make interactions with them pleasant.

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        I can do both. I pity the sad man who is addicted to drugs, but also he’s a fascist campaigning for human suffering and I hate that about him.

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      Empathy is to understand another’s emotional state. Sympathy is to effectively mirror it.

      Buuuut, much like “literally” now means “figuratively” and “decimate” has lost all meaning after being mistaken for “devastate”… Carry on. The species is circling the drain anyhow.

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    It’s interesting to look back at his AMA on reddit in 2015. Every response was so to the point and on topic, even friendly. Clearly something changed since then.

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      I like John Oliver’s take that he really didn’t like the orders to shut down factories during pandemic and got a lot of support from ‘mah freedom’ nutjobs over this causing not-so-slow fall into the extreme right rabbit hole. It actually makes a lot of sense. He clearly craves attention and approval. He used to get it from the left because electric cars are green and SpaceX is cool technology but eventually the left began demanding more regulation and he started getting some criticism (which he doesn’t like that much…). At the same time he noticed that the right is ready to accept him as the ‘free speech savior’ and love him unconditionally as long as he will help them ‘own the libs’ so he switched sides.

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      I am guessing he had good publicists, probably decided he could do the job better and got rid of them just before the pedo thing.

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        Pretty much. After fucking up PayPal and getting kicked out for being an insufferable POS, he hired a PR firm who constructed the real life Tony Stark image for him on the public. Writing and getting press around his person. They also unfortunately had to tell him to not say or do certain stuff that would damage his image, there’s nothing a narcissist hates more than being told no. They also allowed him to position Tesla as the futuristic libertarian ideal and the overpriced manufacturers they are now, and SpaceX as the renaissance of US space exploration. In my opinion not entirely undeserved perceptions but immensely amplified by a marketing machinery. Then he had a meltdown, fired every single PR, marketing person from every single one of his companies. Declared himself the only marketing that his companies needed. He essentially bought into the crap that his own PR wrote for him.

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        In his recent “interview” with Alex Jones, Musk called all PR firms “propagandists.”. So that tracks.

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      I can tell you that nothing has changed about him. I personally know people who worked with him at that time, and he was just as much an arrogant and insufferable egoist as he is now. Legendary screaming matches and him talking completely out of his ass about absolutely everything were the norm and expected in every meeting.

      Do any research on his tenure at Zip2/PayPal or any relationship he’s ever had, and you’ll see Musk has always been a petulant child, he just had a lot of people around him to try and hide it, but it seems like he’s scared basically all of them away.

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      No no, now that he has a drug problem, we’re supposed to pretend he’s not a narcissist, never said anything racist or sexist, and is just a misunderstood entrepreneur.

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      In 2018, for example, he took multiple tabs of acid at a party he hosted in Los Angeles. The next year he partied on magic mushrooms at an event in Mexico. In 2021, he took ketamine recreationally with his brother, Kimbal Musk, in Miami at a house party during Art Basel. He has taken illegal drugs with current SpaceX and former Tesla board member Steve Jurvetson.

      That seems, uh, well-documented.

      Also, Kimbal? Ok.

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        Taking party drugs at a party is honestly fine with me. Taking party drugs at work is something an asshole would do.

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        He seems pretty public about it. I’m wondering how many of these celeb parties have a “no phones” policy.

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    Drug use? … Or he was always just an idiot.

    Just because you’re naturally stupid, it doesn’t always mean you’re on drugs.

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      Drugs are invoked a lot to explain and justify human behavior to some external factor. It’s like when people say Nazis were on meth as an explaination for their actions, while not applying the same logic to basically every other military using amphetamines.